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Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.11 07:27:00 - [1] Originally by: Revan Neferis Different then people like Intaki Union who fight alongside Sani Sabik, Black rabbits and Star Fraction as allied , and turns against their own as the wind blows, I take my friendships and political connections very seriously. Have I stepped into some sort of parallel universe where a Tetrimon supporter called Revan Neferis didn't abandon her faith, leave her fiance, and then use her new corporation to declare war on her old one? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.16 08:40:00 - [2] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 16/04/2007 08:40:55 Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Behold your minionÆs fate Revan, mark it well devil woman. Wench. Tomahawk Bliss Warlord Ah, a mercenary corpse. How exciting must be for you. Surely you mean "member of Sani Sabik's Military Wing" rather than mercenary? Because haven't you been trying to convince us that that's what they are? It's good to see that you've finally admitted that you need to pay people to fight for your tawdry little cause. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.16 09:47:00 - [3] Originally by: Revan Neferis Ah of course, your ignorance again speaks. I'm sure you read Captain's Morgan thread here at this very IGS. Yes, I'm well aware that the Captain Morgan Society are piratical mercenaries paid by you, thank you very much. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.16 09:51:00 - [4] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Revan Neferis Ah of course, your ignorance again speaks. I'm sure you read Captain's Morgan thread here at this very IGS. Yes, I'm well aware that the Captain Morgan Society are piratical mercenaries paid by you, thank you very much. But of course you missed the fact that they are composed of Omniscient Order pilots. Stop embarassing yourself. Ex-OO pilots. Like Mitchman. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.17 21:56:00 - [5] Perhaps you'd care to give us the names of these corporations so that your data can be verified? I mean, we wouldn't want people thinking that you were plucking numbers out of thin air, now would we? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.18 08:22:00 - [6] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Rodj Blake Perhaps you'd care to give us the names of these corporations so that your data can be verified? I mean, we wouldn't want people thinking that you were plucking numbers out of thin air, now would we? All data can be reviewed at Bloodveil Diplomatic forum. www.bloodveil.net Acess to all Sani Sanik Diplomats, CEO's and officers of the corporations involved. For you, no, I don't care and your presence here has just the objective of spaming threads , as you do it with all others. So it's secret information then. Given your track record of publicising all of your activities, that confirms my suspicions. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.18 08:44:00 - [7] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 18/04/2007 08:42:25 Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Revan Neferis All data can be reviewed at Bloodveil Diplomatic forum. www.bloodveil.net Acess to all Sani Sanik Diplomats, CEO's and officers of the corporations involved. Translation by the mind of Rojd Originally by: Rodj Blake So it's secret information then. No wonder that every time you spit something senile like this, another soul comes to Sani Sabik Temple for salvation! How is it senile to describe information with restricted distribution as a secret? Perhaps a better symptom of senility would be forgetting a sentence from one's own quote, thus changing the context, as you just did. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.18 09:08:00 - [8] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 18/04/2007 09:06:19 Originally by: Revan Neferis Edited by: Revan Neferis on 18/04/2007 08:56:45 Originally by: Rodj Blake How is it senile to describe information with restricted distribution as a secret? Yes, it'senile to assume you would have acess to your enemies diplomatic forums and business. Senile and highly delusional. But highly amusing too that you have courage to come here and display such desperate attempt exposing so clear your humiliation. I start to pitty you . I really do. Now rush, you have another thousand threads to spam still. You must admit though, that given your track record of publicising the identities of your diplomatic contacts, allies and other associates at every opportunity, it does seem odd that you now refuse to give us the names of the corporations that you are extorting. I don't assume that you'd ever give me access to your private information. But I don't think that it's unfair for me to assume that you'd normally publicise your victories. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.18 09:52:00 - [9] Originally by: Revan Neferis I'm publicising my victories. And what you assume or not is completely irrelevant for the public or Sani Sabik. All you have done is increase the number of pilots coming to my Temple seeking admission. Publicising something normally involves making information available to the public. The clue is in the way the word starts. Making information available to a selected few is not publicising it. Saying that you've won without even telling the public who you've beaten is not publicising your victories. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.18 11:21:00 - [10] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 18/04/2007 11:19:09 Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Rodj Blake ... more of the same ... All data is released here with numbers. The reason why you can't see is just one more indication of your lack of any information coming from Amarr capital system. So, you are alienated military and politicaly as well? Oh my... the situation is worse then you try to mask... independent of what you think. the situation exists and as usual there is NOTHING you can do about it. Other then cry here of course. Someone could come here an say that last week they destroyed a hundred ships. But that figure is quite meaningless without the details of who those those ships belonged to, and what classes they were. That way the data can be verified. Likewise your numbers are meaningless unless you tell us which corporations you have extorted. After all, anyone can pick numbers out of a hat. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.18 11:33:00 - [11] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 18/04/2007 11:30:33 So then, when are we going to see some context to these numbers? Is that that these corporations do not exist, or is that Revan is afraid that by releasing their names Revan will show herself to be less effective and less focused than her numbers suggest? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.18 11:45:00 - [12] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 18/04/2007 11:42:24 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Rodj Blake context to these numbers? So what you are saying is that you believe Amarrian loyalists should start posting their losses on the holy amarrian justice register of engagements then Rodj? What does Revan not giving details of her victories against specific corps have to do with us not publicising our individual losses? Anyway, to answer your specific, off topic, question, our kills are public to make life easier for our allies where kills are shared. Our losses are not available for public consumption in order to not reveal sensitive details regarding our setups etc. Rest assured though, whenever specific losses are being discussed the types of ships involved and their pilots will be discussed. I'm quite happy for statements such as "we lost four cruisers last night belonging to pilots w, x, y, and z". So why won't Revan tell us about her "glorious" victories? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.18 11:55:00 - [13] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 18/04/2007 11:52:01 Originally by: Revan Neferis Rojd. You're a shame to Amarr Intelligence. At least I can usually spell names correctly. So, when are going to get this list of corporations from you? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.18 12:03:00 - [14] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Rodj Blake At least I can usually spell names correctly. So you are saying that everyone who makes spelling mistakes has substandard intelligence and should be purged under Amarrian rule are you Rodj? No, I'm not. And I'm not saying that entire sections of the community should be purged for no good reason other than they do menial jobs either, unlike your good friend Revan. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.18 12:16:00 - [15] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Rodj Blake entire sections of the community should be purged for no good reason Thats outrageous! you truly are a monster! How can you live with yourself? I suspect that your intellectual overlord, The Cosmopolite will be having words with you. He's always banging on about how putting words into people's mouths is wrong. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.18 12:27:00 - [16] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Rodj Blake putting words into people's mouths is wrong. Never stops you doing it though does it? Given the amount of flip-flopping, obfuscation and avoidance that SF and Bloodveil employ, one has to make certain assumptions about what is meant. I wouldn't say that I put words into anyone's mouth though. Now, enough of your attempts to derail this thread. I'm still waiting for a list of corporations from Revan. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.18 12:36:00 - [17] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 18/04/2007 12:33:10 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Rodj Blake I wouldn't say that I put words into anyone's mouth though. I imagine you wouldn't say that Rodj, but then I've never accused you of abiding by the rules of civilised debate. Still if you are not going to explain how its okay to nonsense a report based on factual statistics in one thread while attacking somebody else for the absense of factual statistics in a different thread at the same time then I think we are probably done here. It's simple enough. If you had actually read my posts in your diary thread rather than insulting me there, you would realise that so far my comments regarding the actual diary have been mostly confined to its non-statistical component. Meanwhile, in this thread, my problem is that Revan has given us some numbers but refuses to validate them with. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.19 10:17:00 - [18] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 19/04/2007 10:16:31 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 19/04/2007 10:15:52 Originally by: Cailais Rodj, While I generally enjoy watching your feeble intellect flail and flounder as it tries to support a tenuous argument, its rather like seeing a mortally wounded Fedo thrashing about in its death throes - so I feel compelled to put you out of your misery, the model of compassion that I am. Classic Bloodveil start - get the insults in early. Quote: Extortion, dear Rodj, by its very nature is the subtle application of threats and coercion that to a great extent relies upon the victim's despair and fear. Publishing the Corporations here would be counter productive (as you really aught to realise) and might give them hope of rescue, when there is none. How would publishing the names of those corporations that have already disbanded or acceded to your demands give them hope? How would us knowing their identities give anyone hope when according to the Bloodveil/SF propaganda machine we are a spent force? And if publishing their names would be counter-productive, why boast loudly that the first target corporation was Brethren of Amarr? Quote: To put it very very simply for you Rody "validating extortion" by proclaiming who you are extorting is a near oxymoron, and I would public urge Lady Revan here not to do so, unleast until its is transparent that those organisations are of no further use to us. Such an oxymoron did not prevent Revan telling us that Brethren of Amarr was the first target corporation, so why not tell us who the rest are? Quote: That Lady Revan Neferis has chosen to provide here an outline of our Alliances activities indicates her magnanimous nature, one which is sadly wasted upon your stunted understanding of the finer arts of diplomacy. C. An outline so vague as to be meaningless. The more Bloodveil speaks on this matter, the more it becomes apparent that their numbers are made up. Publish the list of corporations, or go down in history with a reputation as liars. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.19 11:09:00 - [19] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 19/04/2007 11:05:57 Originally by: Cailais (Nothing new) I shall continue in my assumptions then, and consider Bloodveil to be nothing but a nest of liars. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.19 11:44:00 - [20] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 19/04/2007 11:40:51 And by all means continue to insult me rather than dealing with the issue at hand. The issue being that Bloodveil has made claims which it is unable to even come close to verifying. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.19 12:15:00 - [21] I must say that I don't feel very humiliated, despite all of the insults being thrown my way. In fact, I find it somewhat amusing that insults appear to be the only thing that Bloodveil have left to use in their efforts to evade the issue. The issue being that they are unable to say who their victims are, and this is most likely because there are no victims. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.19 12:21:00 - [22] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 19/04/2007 12:17:57 Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Rodj Blake I must say that I don't feel very humiliated, despite all of the insults being thrown my way. In fact, I find it somewhat amusing that insults appear to be the only thing that Bloodveil have left to use in their efforts to evade the issue. The issue being that they are unable to say who their victims are, and this is most likely because there are no victims. PIE doesn't post publicily their LOSSES at killboards because there are no set-ups. They Fly naked ships. Brilliant logic old man. It seems that I've struck a raw nerve with this line of enquiry. Point to where I've boasted about our losses. You boast about your victories, it's only fair that you back those claims up with facts. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.19 12:38:00 - [23] Originally by: Revan Neferis Bloodveil - Diplomatic forums. Your best friend The only nerve you strike old man is the patience of IGS readers. I like to play with you, while throwing the ball to my slave hounders. I compare both learning times. And the list of corporations that your self-styled NWO claims to have defeated in this tawdry little PR stunt is available to the public there, is it? Because if it isn't, my point still stands. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.19 13:00:00 - [24] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Revan Neferis Bloodveil - Diplomatic forums. Your best friend The only nerve you strike old man is the patience of IGS readers. I like to play with you, while throwing the ball to my slave hounders. I compare both learning times. And the list of corporations that your self-styled NWO claims to have defeated in this tawdry little PR stunt is available to the public there, is it? Because if it isn't, my point still stands. Yes it is available to all who was granted access because their are not our enmies. In other words, no, access isn't freely available and my point still stands. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.19 13:33:00 - [25] A summary of things for late-comers... Number of organisations Bloodveil claim to engaged under "aggressive negotiations": 13 Number of the above organisations Bloodveil for which can provide evidence of their extortion: 1 Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.19 14:12:00 - [26] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 19/04/2007 15:04:49 Originally by: Cailais Numbers protected by the Loyalists from said engagements: 0. It's hard to protect something that doesn't exist though, isn't it? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.19 15:58:00 - [27] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 19/04/2007 16:02:20 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 19/04/2007 15:57:47 Now I understand. We're supposed to trust Revan when she says that she's done all of these things. We're supposed to trust the words of someone who has flip-flopped between "taking orders from Jamyl Sarum and no-one else", declaring that the teachings of Tetrimon are to be obeyed above all else, saying that the Blood Sepherim are the ultimate authority in the universe and finally proclaiming that her will is more important than anyone else's. We're supposed to trust someone who breaks her marriage vows the same way other people break the ice. We're supposed to trust someone whose sacred text seems to be re-written on an almost weekly basis. A text whose very name means "of doubtful authenticity". We're supposed to trust someone who first of all supports the institution of slavery and then denounces it while still allowing a corporation called "VITOC" in her alliance. The likes of Cailais may trust such a person, but I suspect that most people would not. The challenge still stands. Until these extorted corporations are named, the words of Revan Neferis and her lackies on this matter are like so much hot air. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.24 15:48:00 - [28] Still no list of corporations, I see. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.25 12:04:00 - [29] Will we be learning the names of these new corporations, or will they be made up as well? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.25 14:56:00 - [30] You gave us numbers, sure. But you've still to give us the names. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.25 15:07:00 - [31] Admit it Revan, you're lying. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.

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